Comments on: Controversial verses part II http://deadpanthoughts.com/2008/11/controversial-verses-part-ii/ Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:33:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: khalid humayun http://deadpanthoughts.com/2008/11/controversial-verses-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-3949 khalid humayun Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:15:19 +0000 http://www.deadpanthoughts.com/?p=1068#comment-3949 It is not in appreciation of understanding if we take the revelations lining without knowing the incident behind it. Take,for example the prohibition of alcohol drinking. There are three verses in Quran on this great sin. As Syed Qutub Shaheed has explained in his book that drinking is addiction that can not be done away in one go, it is against nature. Islam being a true and humane, prohibits this evil habit in a phased manner. The first verse (4:43) prohibited being intoxicant while offering prayers. There were instances when during prayers the Imam, being intoxicated, recited the surah wrongly. So it was revealed by Allah not to offer prayers when you are drunk. The next verse (2:190) declared that wine (alkhimr) has great evils (sins) and some benefits as well but the evil is much greater than benefit. In the third verse (5:90/91) Allah completely bans drinking of Alcohol in any form. It is very important to interface all three verses to get the finality of the sharia and it would not be justifiable to pick up one earlier verse and reach any decision. Same is the case with the verse 9:5 (slay the pagans wherever you may come upon them......). The real sharia on this issue can only be determined when all related verses are taken into consideration. What I am saying has already been very well explained in the blog so there is no need to repeat it one more time. My only emphasis is that all the verses and surat revealed have some sort of incidents behind them and that we should also take them into consideration before reaching any decision. Verse 9:5 was revealed when muslims were in the state of war with pagans. I It is not It is not in appreciation of understanding if we take the revelations lining without knowing the incident behind it. Take,for example the prohibition of alcohol drinking. There are three verses in Quran on this great sin. As Syed Qutub Shaheed has explained in his book that drinking is addiction that can not be done away in one go, it is against nature. Islam being a true and humane, prohibits this evil habit in a phased manner. The first verse (4:43) prohibited being intoxicant while offering prayers. There were instances when during prayers the Imam, being intoxicated, recited the surah wrongly. So it was revealed by Allah not to offer prayers when you are drunk. The next verse (2:190) declared that wine (alkhimr) has great evils (sins) and some benefits as well but the evil is much greater than benefit. In the third verse (5:90/91) Allah completely bans drinking of Alcohol in any form. It is very important to interface all three verses to get the finality of the sharia and it would not be justifiable to pick up one earlier verse and reach any decision.

Same is the case with the verse 9:5 (slay the pagans wherever you may come upon them……). The real sharia on this issue can only be determined when all related verses are taken into consideration. What I am saying has already been very well explained in the blog so there is no need to repeat it one more time. My only emphasis is that all the verses and surat revealed have some sort of incidents behind them and that we should also take them into consideration before reaching any decision. Verse 9:5 was revealed when muslims were in the state of war with pagans.

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]]> By: XanALaOM00 http://deadpanthoughts.com/2008/11/controversial-verses-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1283 XanALaOM00 Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:30:21 +0000 http://www.deadpanthoughts.com/?p=1068#comment-1283 (Qur'an 2:106): "None of Our revelations do we abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but we substitute somthing better or similar: knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?" According to most Muslim authorities, verses like (9:5), abrogate the peaceful verses, because they were revealed later in Muhammad's prophetic career: in fact, most Muslim authorities agree that the ninth sura was the very last section of the Qu'ran revealed. Thus the Terroististic ideaology established by Muhammad's LAST revelations have abrogated any of his previous peaceful or tolerant verses in which were revealed more to the beginning of his prophetic career. Thus the relgion is founded upon violence and conquests which can be further confirmed by the terroists themselves as well as the history and teachings of the prophet himself. I reccommend reading Robert Spencers books. (Qur’an 2:106): “None of Our revelations do we abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but we substitute somthing better or similar: knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?”

According to most Muslim authorities, verses like (9:5), abrogate the peaceful verses, because they were revealed later in Muhammad’s prophetic career: in fact, most Muslim authorities agree that the ninth sura was the very last section of the Qu’ran revealed. Thus the Terroististic ideaology established by Muhammad’s LAST revelations have abrogated any of his previous peaceful or tolerant verses in which were revealed more to the beginning of his prophetic career.
Thus the relgion is founded upon violence and conquests which can be further confirmed by the terroists themselves as well as the history and teachings of the prophet himself.

I reccommend reading Robert Spencers books.

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